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Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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Hawkeye ends running headlong into the holiday season… by doing truly unexpected things to the Rockefeller Christmas tree.

Summary

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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The episode opens on a meeting between the Kingpin himself, Wilson Fisk, and Eleanor Bishop. They discuss their dealings, and Eleanor admits that she wants out of their business. It is revealed that her husband owed a small fortune to Fisk, which she repaid “tenfold.” She has insurance—records of all of her interactions with Fisk—but Fisk warns her as she leaves that this business is not the sort of thing you can walk away from.

Maya arrives at Fisk’s hideout to apologize for her high-profile hunt for Clint Barton, and requests a few days off “to clear her head.” Fisk agrees, and reassures Maya that he loves her. As she leaves, Fisk tells Kazi that he believes Maya has turned on them.

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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Meanwhile, Clint and Kate head back to Kate’s apartment to fabricate more trick arrows in preparation for Eleanor’s holiday party. As a beautiful Christmas-themed rendition of the Avengers theme plays, we see all of the arrows under construction: pepper spray, air bag arrows, flash bombs, Pym arrows, lightning arrows, Stark arrows, and one simply labeled as “way too dangerous.” As they work, Clint gives a final warning to Kate about the dangers they’ll face, and she confirms that she is ready for it. She tells Clint the story of her experience at the battle for New York, when she learned that “being a hero isn’t just for people who can fly or shoot lasers out of their hands. It’s for anyone who’s brave enough to do what’s right, whatever the cost.”

The Tracksuit Bros descend on Rockefeller Center as Kate and Clint arrive at Eleanor’s holiday party. Jack—somehow not in jail—is also present, wearing a sword and talking to the younger Armand VII. Kazi takes a sniper position on a nearby building as Yelena arrives at the party, followed by Eleanor. Kate pulls her mother aside, out of Kazi’s line of sight, and confronts her about her dealings with Fisk. They are interrupted by Jack, who also wants to talk to Eleanor.

Meanwhile, Clint talks to Wendy, one of the NYC LARPers who is disguised as a waiter at the holiday party. Kazi aims for Clint, but Clint notices the light and pulls Wendy out of the line of fire. Kate runs to help, leaving Eleanor and Jack in the back room. Eleanor takes off out a side exit leaving Jack alone and confused, but instead of running, he draws his sword and enters the fray.

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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Kate runs after Yelena and the two head for the elevators. In a tense, whimsical sequence, the two scuffle in the elevator and fight across an entire floor of the building before Yelena makes her escape out a window. As she rappels down the building, Yelena shoots at Clint, who takes cover. He then shoots a gas arrow at Kazi, drawing him out of the building. Kate follows Yelena and makes a not-so-graceful superhero landing in Rockefeller Center.

The Tracksuits swarm the plaza below. Jack enthusiastically joins the fight, sword in hand, as Clint is ambushed by Kazi. Clint knocks him out before making his clumsy escape out the window and into the Rockefeller Christmas tree.

Kate shoots the Rockefeller tree down as the LARPers—now decked out in their cool new suits—begin to shepherd the civilians to safety. She then joins Clints on the ice to make their stand against the Tracksuits. Trick arrows abound as the two Hawkeyes work together to fend off the bros, coalescing in the final use of a Pym arrow that shrinks the “Trust a Bro” moving van.

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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With the Tracksuits taken care of, Kate runs to find Eleanor, just as Yelena and Maya arrive at the plaza. Yelena demands to know what really happened to Natasha, convinced that Clint is lying. Maya and Kazi fight; she begs him to leave it all behind, but he refuses, and she kills him.

Kate arrives just as Kingpin reaches Eleanor in her car. Kate shoots at Fisk, but he breaks off the arrow, seemingly unaffected. Eleanor breaks up the fight by ramming Kingpin through the wall of FAO Schwartz, giving Kate a chance to recover. Inside the store, Kate confronts Fisk, and is thrown through a dollhouse. Fisk snaps all of the trick arrows and scatters them to the ground, but just as he is about to attack again, Kate flicks a cufflink at the arrowheads, setting off a chain reaction and exploding the one labeled “way too dangerous.” Fisk is thrown across the store, unconscious.

Outside, Kate runs to Eleanor, who survived the car crash and is dazed, but apologetic. The police arrive and arrest her for the murder of Armand III. Eleanor asks Kate if this is what heroes do—arrest their mothers on Christmas Eve.

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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Back at Rockefeller Center, Yelena knocks Clint to the ground before rounding on him with a gun. But Clint gives a long, low whistle—the same one that Natasha would use to signal to Yelena as children—and Yelena pauses. Clint shares the stories that Natasha had told him over the years about Yelena, and about their escape from Ohio. The two have a moment of shared grief before Yelena leaves the plaza.

Meanwhile, Fisk escapes from the toy store and stumbles down a side alley. Maya confronts him, and despite his attempts to convince her that family “doesn’t always see eye-to-eye,” Maya shoots him.

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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Finally, Clint returns to the farmhouse on Christmas day, with Kate and Lucky in tow. The children run out to greet them, delighted that Clint made it home on Christmas. As the children open presents with Kate, Clint returns the watch to Laura, who flips it over to reveal the S.H.I.E.L.D. logo and the number 19. Kate and Clint burn the Ronin suit once and for all. Together, they head back to the farmhouse as Kate begins to brainstorm her own superhero name.

 

Commentary

Is good, bro!

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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Like the rest of this season, this episode was the perfect combination of action, whimsy, and heart. Steinfeld and Renner continue to shine in both their personal moments together onscreen and in the more comedic action sequences. I loved seeing Kate learn and grow through this series, but I also appreciate that she’s remained Kate despite it all—headstrong, passionate, and determined to do the right thing, even at great personal cost. I look forward to seeing what else Steinfeld brings to the MCU.

I’ve also been pleasantly surprised by Clint’s own emotional journey and ultimate catharsis surrounding his loss of Natasha. The final confrontation between Clint and Yelena was beautiful, despite some clumsy editing, and provided some great acting moments for both Renner and Pugh. (“I loved her so much.” “Me too.”) These moments of interconnectivity between the Disney+ series and the movies not only strengthen the storytelling, but allow Marvel to continue to shine through its fantastic and somehow-believable comic book worldbuilding.

In the previous episode, we got our first glimpse at the comedic interactions between Yelena and Kate, and the finale continued to deliver great moments between the two. Kate seems to have a thing for awkward elevator encounters—in contrast to Steve Rogers’s badass elevator scenes—and I hope we get more of this new Hawkeye and Black Widow together in the MCU.

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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The comedy throughout this episode was exactly what I wanted from a holiday action series: slapstick tree-climbing chaos, LARPer shenanigans, Clint’s Bond-esque one-liners, witty exchanges between Yelena and Kate, and surprising, enthusiastic heroism from the red herring villain, Jack Duquesne. I actually laughed out loud at his conversation with Armand VII, as well as when he joined the fight against the Tracksuit Bros. It turns out that he’s just a suave, vaguely European-sounding man who really loves swords, and that’s great. The setup for the owl, followed by the shrinking of the “Trust a Bro” moving van and its subsequent abduction, added more great comedic moments in an overall emotional episode. (Although I am now concerned for the fate of those bros.) And as cheesy as it was to have the LARPers suit up in the fight, I one-hundred percent believe that New Yorkers would rather listen to people dressed up like Asgardians than people dressed as regular waitstaff.

My only complaint about this episode is that like other Disney+ series, it felt a bit rushed towards the end, despite the episode’s hour-long run time. I definitely could have used more closure for Maya, Kazi, and Fisk, as well as for Eleanor and Kate. Fisk was great as a villain—imposing, menacing, and seemingly invincible—and I feel a bit robbed that we only really got him for the finale. However, I’m sure it’s not the last we’ll see of him or Eleanor Bishop, especially if Kate sticks around in the MCU. (Potentially forming the Young Avengers?)

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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And yes, Clint finally makes it home for the holidays, with Kate and Lucky in tow. We get the reveal that Laura was S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 19, who in the comics went by the code name Mockingbird. (In the comics, Clint was also married to Mockingbird for a time, although the agent’s real name was Bobbi Morse. The marriage didn’t last.) The ending does leave room for questions: Will Clint finally retire? Is Fisk truly dead? Where will Maya go next? Is Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. canon? Who gets Lucky the Pizza Dog? But despite the open questions, the series felt self-contained with satisfying emotional closure.

And of course I can’t forget the post-credits scene. Marvel knew exactly what I wanted for Christmas: the long-form, no-cut version of the song from Rogers: The Musical. Now film a whole two-act musical, you cowards!

Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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I think ultimately, the series did exactly what I wanted it to do: it told a story about Hawkeye, both the new one and the old one, and used elements from one of my favorite comic runs all in the backdrop of New York City at Christmas. It provided an excellent introduction for both Kate Bishop and Maya Lopez, as well as further development for our new Black Widow, Yelena. It gave us—along with Clint—some closure on Natasha’s death, and continued to build on the state of the world following the Blip.

I really hope that the MCU continues to leverage the Disney+ series format to tell stories like this: smaller, more down-to-earth, and human. I loved Hawkeye and can’t wait to see more of Kate Bishop in the future of the MCU.

 

Asides

  • The music in this episode, like the rest of the series, was phenomenal.
  • Loved the callback to Clint teaching Kate how to snap a coin at a target, and that she ended up using Kingpin’s cuff link.
Hawkeye, season one, episode 6, So This is Christmas
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  • I hope Jack joins the LARPers.
  • I hope we see the LARPers again.
  • Kate telling Clint “you jumped from that building even though you can’t fly” to jumping off her own building to chase down Yelena was a heart-wrenching parallel.

Annika Rollock is a forever student and sometimes-writer working on her PhD in aerospace engineering. She enjoys comics, cycling, cephalopods, and coffee. Stop by her Twitter for space content and the occasional meme!

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chadefallstar
4 years ago

Damm… they so very very nearly pulled off a perfect series but they did fumble the final episode a little,  Whilst I enjoyed a lot of the party raid stuff in particularly Jack’s scenes and Yelena crashing the party I felt The ice rink fight was a little too much, as were the LARPers. Then we get Maya shooting Kingpin…  was which was too rushed, that hadn’t  been earned yet for me, it should have been kept back for the Echo series. Also going back to last weeks conversations.. this definitely was not the same Wilson Fisk we saw in the Netflix Daredevil, this one was actually closer to the comic book version to be fair, but the Netflix version I found more more sinister and frightening.. but I guess they are more limited with what they can do with that in a PG13 production.   I know in the comics Fisk didn’t die in that situation with Maya but this isn’t the comics so he may well be dead, I don’t know how long Vincent was up for playing this version of the character maybe they only could get him with the promise to kill him off?  I hope not as he’s a terrific actor.

 

The really good stuff was again the character interactions with Clint , Kate and Yelena, I really want a Kate and Yelana series now,  Hailee Steinfeld and Florence Pugh are just so good. If this is the swan song for Jeremy Renner then it’s been a good series just slightly let down by a couple of problems in the finale.

 

I see the backlash over the mid credits scene has begun on social media… to the guys who didn’t get  it …. It was meant to be cheesy and terrible, didn’t you see the first episode?  I do feel a little disappointed we didn’t have   a final post credits scene, I was hoping for Matt Murdock.

 

All in all I would give this series an 8 out of 10, the second best MCU TV series so far… Wandavision retains its crown with a 9

ChristopherLBennett
4 years ago

 It should be clarified that we did not see Maya shoot Kingpin. We saw Maya aim at Kingpin, then the camera tilted away from them and we heard a shot. If we don’t see a body, he’s not dead.

 

An entertaining finale, but I feel it was trying to serve too many plotlines at once and a couple of things, particularly the matter of Kate’s mother, got short shrift as a result. Even Kate felt a little sidelined at times, though she did get some good business with Yelena and a marquee fight with Kingpin.

I was a bit surprised by just how much screen time Kingpin got. We didn’t just get a couple of brief scenes; he was prominent throughout the whole episode and was even the final boss for Kate.

As for the continuity issue with Agents of SHIELD and Laura as Agent 19 (Mockingbird), it’s worth noting that AoS’s Bobbi Morse was never explicitly called Mockingbird onscreen (though I’m told she was called “Bird” once). And of course, sometimes more than one character uses the same code name — like Hawkeye, as the ending here implied.

Mr. Magic
Mr. Magic
4 years ago

Am I a bad person for LMAO at the black comedy of the shrunken Tracksuit van being carried off by the owl? XD

Fiddler
4 years ago

1. chadefallstar
 
I felt The ice rink fight was a little too much.
 
I found that scene awesome, with the choreography and how attuned Clint and Kate were to each other’s movements. The Pym arrow was the ice on the cake there. I already laughed at the squaly shouts come from the van, and then the Owl came.


On what Christopher said, re: Mockingbird, I also do not recall Bobbi actually being named that, except in reviews and comments in here. I also never saw Bobbi mentioned by Agent number or saw her badge in there IIRC, but it has been a while since I rewatched AOS.

Nevertheless, I already had accepted that post season 1 AoS no longer was canon.

gwangung
4 years ago

Although….we DID see Kate shoot Kingpin with an arrow…which HE SHRUGGED OFF.

I’m sure he’ll be back if D’onofrio wants to come back.

MikeKelm
4 years ago

A good end to the series- it stumbled on landing a little bit though.  Two things that knocked it down for me was the pacing seemed off a bit, and the never ending track suit mafia which felt like a video game endlessly generating bad guys.  

Also if we haven’t already, we can consign Agents of Shield into the multiverse as it is most definitely not in this one. 

While I liked WandaVision a bit better, this certainly has done a good job of establishing the new Hawkeye and Widow for future movies. I’m kind of hoping that we get a great team up movie, as Hailee Steinfeld and Florence Pugh have great chemistry together 

DigiCom
4 years ago

Will Clint finally retire?

Given that the last line of the series strongly implies he’s passing the codename on to Kate, “signs point to yes”

@2 

If we don’t see a body, he’s not dead.

The dude shrugged off two arrows to the chest, being hit by a car, and a grenade-scale explosion.  

There’s no way he died from a simple bullet.  He’s either enhanced somehow or wearing body armor.

DigiCom
4 years ago

[EDITED]

I was mistaken, never mind. :)

Peer
Peer
4 years ago

Very satisfying episode, especially tonally. It was a bit weird that Fisk wanted to kill if Elenor by himself, that felt forced. He seems to have some sort of superpower (superserum?) considering his strength and stamina. So the Netflix version is a different multiverse- which makes sense (and allows Marvel to bring in. Whoever they feel deserves it, whenever they think it’s appropriate). And no, I don’t think he’s dead. 

looking forward to whatever they bring in next

ChristopherLBennett
4 years ago

@9/Peer: “Fisk… seems to have some sort of superpower (superserum?) considering his strength and stamina. So the Netflix version is a different multiverse…”

That doesn’t follow. It’s been at least six years in-universe since the events of Daredevil season 3, enough time for Fisk to gain some kind of superpowers. I saw it suggested that the Tracksuit Mafia could’ve infiltrated the Flag Smashers (from Falcon & Winter Soldier) and gotten Fisk access to their supersoldier serum.

Mr. Magic
Mr. Magic
4 years ago

@6:

Two things that knocked it down for me was the pacing seemed off a bit, and the never ending track suit mafia which felt like a video game endlessly generating bad guys.

Matt Fraction and David Aja’s run (which was the creative foundation of the series) ended the same way (with a veritable army of Bros launching an all-out siege of Clint’s home). So, it’s staying true to that climax.

gwangung
4 years ago

Wilton Fisk on Earth 616 was supposedly un-powered, but he could stand toe to toe with Spider Man in a physical fight. I can easily believe Wilton Fisk in the MCU is as tough and as strong.

ChristopherLBennett
4 years ago

@12/gwangung: It’s one thing to be really strong. It’s another thing to shake off being hit by a car and smashed through a plate glass window, and to merely limp away from having what was essentially a grenade explode at his feet. That’s beyond human. Although I suppose many action shows and movies have had supposedly non-superpowered characters walk away from things ike that.

Peer
Peer
4 years ago

@@@@@#13

I agree. He also ripped the car door out and brushed off two direct arrow hits. And the way he threw Kate across the room was filmed in away indicating superstrength. While the heroes clearly survive more than is actually possible (esp. in the Movie Black widow“) so far Marvel has made a distinction between possible and superpower. And (this) Fisk seems to be deliberatly shown as superpowered. (I actually thought he looked a bit like a robot, when he took the shot and I don’t recall any blood or physical visible wounds in the end, would have to watch again to confirm though). Maya not killing kingpin will start of her series I guess. Than we will find out if Daredevil already exists in this universe or if he will be introduced (because if not in a kingpin series, when else?)
 

gwangung
4 years ago

@13 Hmmm…yeah. The car crash is actually beyond the capabilities of Fisk in the 616 (the arrow, not so much, if there’s a bullet proof vest or body armor involved). So…powered up in the MCU.

The other thing that strikes me is that Kate Burton is probably no longer rich, as her wealth, as generated by her mother, is criminally obtained. It’s a parallel to 616 Kate, who, if I recall correctly, also lost her money.

And this is something that’s fodder for a second season and certainly I’d enjoy seeing…

Mr. Magic
Mr. Magic
4 years ago

@15:

The other thing that strikes me is that Kate Burton is probably no longer rich, as her wealth, as generated by her mother, is criminally obtained. It’s a parallel to 616 Kate, who, if I recall correctly, also lost her money.

And this is something that’s fodder for a second season and certainly I’d enjoy seeing…

That happened in the comics, too. Kate’s father cut her off in the middle of Fraction’s run and Kate being broke played out both over the run’s remainder and into Kelly Thompson’s Kate-centric sequel run.

Celebrinnen
4 years ago

I really, really liked the whole series and the finale did not disappoint. As said, a perfect mix of heart, action, and whimsy. Basically all has been said already – Clint/Kate and Kate/Yelena are just superb together; I really liked Kate telling Clint about the time she saw him during the Battle for New York, as well as Clint and Yelena’s conversation in the end; it is so nice Clint did make it home for Christmas (and he took Kate and Lucky along!); Jack joining the fight was a fun and nice touch; and the owl was adorable. Not a thing in the episode that I disliked. FWIW, I do not think Fisk is dead, either.

The mid-credit scene was just icing on the cake. The only thing I do not understand is … what was Scott doing in the musical? (*Googles* Oh, that’s why …)

chadefallstar
4 years ago

Actually some interesting theory’s here that I hadn’t considered.. the one I like is Karli from Falcon and the Winter soldier bribed Kingpin to get access to New York by giving  him the serum, that would explain a lot about what we saw in this episode.

I don’t want Kingpin dead I definitely want Vincent bac

Ryamano
4 years ago

It was a nice story involving Kate Bishop, Clint, Maya and Yelena.

 

I just think Wilson Fisk didn’t fit in with the tone of the rest of the series, and kind of came of as ridiculous in this finale. This especially with Vincent Donofrio playing him, he was too ingrained in my mind from the Daredevil Netflix series.

rm
rm
4 years ago

My position on TV canon is that anything from ABC (Agent Carter and AOS), Netflix, or teen shows (Runaways and Cloak & Dagger) is absolutely 100% canon until something in an MCU property 100% unequivocally disallows it. (Let’s just forget Inhumans and Ike Perlmutter with them). 

Nothing has yet disallowed the canonicity of Daredevil in this series. Fisk’s suits were actually armor in that show, and he was freakishly strong. Maybe not walk-away-from-car-crash-through-a-wall strong, but it’s comics. 

So. I await the debut of Netflix Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica and the rest in the MCU. 

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is a tougher stretch but I’m gonna remain a true believer until the movies break my heart. 

Notes on this show:

— Lots of killing minions without consequence. Cluster bomb arrows killing six guys at once. Jack slicing people up with a sword. The poor guys getting eaten by an owl. Yikes.

— There was some year that an owl was found in the Rockefeller Center tree and became a social media star before being taken to a raptor rescue. It was fun to have an MCU version of that actual bird. 

— Pizza Dog had nothing to do here. He was in the show as fan service only. In the comics he reflected Clint’s emotional state, and played a part in the plot. He had that brilliant issue from his POV. If he was gonna be in the show there should have been a Pizza Dog POV episode. 

— Grills in this show was a very different character from Grills in the comic, and I am very glad he did not meet the same fate. Sad not to see the Brooklyn accent “Hawk Guy” joke, though. 

— Also glad there weren’t gratuitous innocent bystander deaths. All the LARPers made it. (But see dead minions note above). 

Joe
Joe
4 years ago

While I do not believe that a second season has been announced, it may be telling that the trailer for this week’s episode clearly refers to it as a “season” finale, rather than a series one. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgp1OEVDxDM

Hawkeye is undoubtedly the strongest of the Disney+ shows so far, capping off a great week for Marvel. (NWH is one of the top Marvel films overall, and certainly the best live-action Spider-Man.) I would love to see more of these characters, not just a cameo in Echo or whatever.

Marina Blair
Marina Blair
4 years ago

@12:”Wilton Fisk on Earth 616 was supposedly un-powered,”

That was a weird Handbook retcon in the ’80s. In his appearances in the ’60s and ’70s, the Kingpin was clearly superhumanly strong. 

 

@10 ” I saw it suggested that the Tracksuit Mafia could’ve infiltrated the Flag Smashers (from Falcon & Winter Soldier) and gotten Fisk access to their supersoldier serum.”

They could also use that as a way to enhance the Kingpin’s physical size in the MCU. D’Onofrio is a big guy, but it’s always annoyed me that he’s just not big enough to make a convincing Wilson Fisk.

Lisamarie
4 years ago

I am coming at this from a point of view of not having any exposure to the comics, so that might be influencing it, but this finale fell flat for me (as did the series as a whole).

I think part of it is that I just tend to glaze over most extended battle scenes…I find the trick arrows to really stretch my suspension of disbelief, and some of them were also quite sadistic but played for laughs.  I agree with whomever above said the ice rink scene felt like a video game with endless mooks.  I also felt like it was kind of weird that they pulled the LARPers into this deadly situation, even if I did think they were amusing.

What I really wanted was more closure/expansion on Clint/Yelena, with Maya and Kazi (and Kingpin), and Eleanor and Kate, and a little more with Kingpin and Eleanor’s motivations.  It just felt like a lot of it got short shrift.

I did really like what they did with Jack, and I’m glad he survived through it – I was really worried they would kill him off!

Overall it was a fun series, but no WandaVision in my book ;)  I would actually rank it as my least favorite of all the TV series so far.  

Did we ever find out WHY Kingpin/Tacksuit guys wanted the watch so bad? What exactly would they have done with it and how would it have traced back to anybody?

gwangung
4 years ago

@22 I’m not sure there are that many actors who can act AND have that physical presence of the Kingpin. Michael Clarke Duncan seemed to be close, but he’s probably not the actor D’onofrio is. It’s one of those questions that keep producers up at night….

Ryamano
4 years ago

Why was the track suit mafia looking for Agent 19’s watch in the first episode? I didn’t understand that. The ronin stuff seemed more important.

ChristopherLBennett
4 years ago

@20/rm: “Lots of killing minions without consequence. Cluster bomb arrows killing six guys at once. Jack slicing people up with a sword. The poor guys getting eaten by an owl. Yikes.”

Those could be taken as non-fatal wounds or ambiguous fates. The sword wounds would be easily survivable with sufficiently prompt medical attention and antibiotics. The explosions might not have been large enough to be instantly lethal. And the miniaturized guys were inside a truck that the owl might not have been able to get through before they re-expanded.

 

“If he was gonna be in the show there should have been a Pizza Dog POV episode.”

That would’ve been a great idea for a longer, more episodic series, but this was a 6-part miniseries.

cuttlefishbenjamin
4 years ago

It may be worth noting that it was once successfully argued in court (in the real world that is, not a comic book) that Wilson Fisk’s feats of strength and endurance (and his disproportionately large hands) meant that he did not qualify as human.

 

(People remember that case more for the irony of a Marvel subsidiary making that argument about mutants, but the case also covered Fantastic Four and Spider-man toys).

Peer
Peer
4 years ago

Just read that Daredevil is expected to be coming back already in She-Hulk. Which makes sense, considering they are both lawyers. I just wonder, if they really would do a She/Hulk/Daredevil- series without Fisk.

(Although it may be that Daredevil is actually not showing up, just Matt Murdock.

Q 20, I might be misremembering things, but the mines, Hawkeye planned, just made the roof collapse, I dont think the mafia is really dying.

Later they shot arrows with tranquilizer darts. But it can be safely assumed, that the shrunken henchmen didnt make it (and its not good for you brain to shrink or whatever, thats why Antman has the suit). But overall they tried to minimize casulties.

Sarah
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4 years ago

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AlanBrown
4 years ago

I enjoyed the heck out of the finale, and the whole series. This is my favorite of the new Disney+ Marvel shows, and that is saying a lot because I have liked them all. Even my wife enjoyed it, and she doesn’t like much of the Marvel stuff.

I am looking forward to watching this again as an annual tradition, along with Die Hard and our other favorite holiday movies.

Marie
Marie
4 years ago

It was nice to see Chekhov’s swordsman finally pay off!  I do hope Jack ends up being a member of (and probably a fencing mentor for) the LARPers.

Marie
Marie
4 years ago

Wait wait wait wait…So the tracksuits are observed committing arson by the pizza restaurant staff (and given that there’s like a hundred of them wearing uniforms they should be easy to locate), there would have to be plenty of evidence that an accelerant was the cause of the fire, Kate and Hawkeye leave the scene of an uncontrolled fire in a connected building in a crowded city, dozens and dozens of public safety personnel are dispatched to take care of the problem, and she misses her appointment to talk to law enforcement the next day.  How is there no follow-up by the end of the season?  Just sayin.

Totally enjoyed the show though!  So fun.